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March 21, 2009 at 3:39 pm
sparkered
‘The Big Takeover
The global economic crisis isn’t about money – it’s about power. How Wall Street insiders are using the bailout to stage a revolution’
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/26793903/the_big_takeover/1
This article is a good frank addendum to the Obama Deception movie. It goes through the background of the financial crisis including quotes from insiders on the disgusting premediated events, legilsation changes and actions to take the economy down purposely (with references to the current Obama Administration).
I see the post is categorised as conspiracy, which is incredibly tiresome the word has been associated with the counter culture of x files, ufo’s repitlians etc. The word comes from Greek which means to breath together, to me the co-option of the word has stopped from people talking to the point where the majority just end up sniggering like educated fools, or knowingly dismiss as fear mongering an actual conspiracy evidenced in history and what is happening in the world in economics, sustainability, education and politics takes place right before their eyes.
Recommend three sources for learning about how the masses minds wallets and lives are rightly royaly screwed time and time again in history.
Bill Bonner -Mobs Messiah’s and Markets’
A Brief History of the Future: A Brave and Controversial Look at the Twenty-First Century by Jacques Attali
Millenium Wineres and Losers in the coming Order by Jacques Attali.
Tragic and predictable.
Allan Watt – http://cuttingthroughthematrix.com
The word co
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March 21, 2009 at 6:09 pm
leighblackall
I think you confuse my use of the word conspiracy, with their use of the words conspiracy theory. Its only tiresome to those who are insecure in their conclusions on the matter.
Thanks for the follow up links though Sparks.
March 21, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Steven Parker
Fair enough Leigh. What I especially liked about the Obama doco was it’s black and white ness in term of shining a light with footage of what the guy said as part of the campaign (So many people I met bought into the fantasy) and what he has done when in office. What’s amazing how many wall street people and lobbyists responsible for abolishing legislation such as the glass seagel act in 1999 (during the Clinton era) are back in power to finish the economic collapse/ hatchet job ‘Yes we can’.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass-Steagall_Act
The national service act and forced youth brigades is also bad. History repeats.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/18/house-readies-passage-volunteerism-critics-pricey-forced-service/
March 22, 2009 at 9:19 am
David McQuillan
This kind of stuff really turns me off.
“The Obama deception”, layers and layers of implications made by randoms with what credibility? Oppressive music clearly aimed at swaying the viewers to the point of view of the creators.
I’m not arguing with the thesis of the piece. The youth brigade is a troubling phenomena, and clearly the Obama administration has different aims to the Obama branding in many ways, but I could only stand about 5 minutes of this film.
I prefer my content a bit dryer and less emotive. 🙂
e.g.
http://www.medialens.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=10135#10135
March 22, 2009 at 9:28 am
leighblackall
I agree Dave, but I forced myself to look beyond that (it is American after all) and focus on the content, Google searching and wikipedia-ing along the way. If you only watched 5 minutes, it hardly warrents a comment does it – apart from your comment about aesthetics. The rolling stone link that Sparker leaves is a good read too.. in that it is accessible and humorous in a dark kind of way.
Its ironic, that we get to see a cumulation of Yes-We-Can emotive crap for nearly 6 months.. equaling probably more than several hours of viewing, tollerating it over shadowing our own elections here in NZ.. but when presented with a DIY counter view that is attempting to go in depth on its perpsective, we all too easily turn away. It seems the real propagandists win at every turn.
March 22, 2009 at 9:33 am
leighblackall
Good link btw Dave. Thanks
March 26, 2009 at 11:53 am
sabrina .
People need to stop identifying the idea of a “youth brigade” (basically every 18-25er needs to serve for 6 months) as a purely nazi phenomenon. They have the same thing in Finland and many other countries today – just implementing this idea is NOT a form of nazism or fascism.
Read some books, people.
March 26, 2009 at 4:55 pm
John Roberts
Sabrina, Don’t be alarmed about the “youth brigade”? Well, I’m a veteran, and I’m to old too, but this sure scares the hell out of me! And if you watched this film or read about these facts eleshwere, you would know that Obama’s “little army” doesn’t stop there. He’s also been talking about requiring everyone to do some sort of civil service. Aren’t you worried about living in a completely socialist state?
You stated many other countries do this, but that’s not entirely correct. Some countries require military service, but this is not military service. This is forced civil service and a civilian army, and that’s scary! Furthermore, Israel, one of the countries which requires military service is already connected to the U.S., and in a very arcane way.
And that takes me to this!
Rahm Emanuel, Obama’s Chief of Staff, is Jewish.
Think about it!
March 27, 2009 at 5:48 am
asdf
It’s not that he’s jewish, he’s Israeli and actually served in the Israeli military which has the same type of forced service.
I think it’s hillarious that sabrina compared us here in the USA to Finland — basically a little no-nothing country that does not have troops all over the Earth and ready to head to war at the drop of a hat.
The more troops we have is directly related to the amount of wars we will be involved in and how many countries we can occupy.
March 27, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Peter Rawsthorne
Jeez, now that I have watched the whole thing I wonder which FBI, CIA, CSIS list I will go on. Am I potential threat or a part of the brainwashed masses. Good thing I live on a small island aspiring to self-sufficiency.
April 1, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Peter
You insist on having as many rifles as you can afford yet the idea of a civilian service scares you?
Also I find it sad that RightWingers, whatever that means, are screaming that obama is taking away liberties and running the country bankrupt? Do you recall the Patriot Act? Did you read it? The synopsis at least? No? Well, did you hear about American lives ruined due to this piece of …..’legislation’
Bush the ‘conservative’ bankrupted this nation, turned the biggest surplus into the largest deficit and debt, made all his friends rich ( yes the people that this film alludes to) and without an infrastructure to show for it
In any case this film is for the mentally lazy or stunted, they try to weave a dramatic conspiracy out of disparate statements. The truth is much more interesting and disturbing than this film suggests, it just takes reading.
April 1, 2009 at 1:56 pm
leighblackall
Read what Peter?
April 1, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Steven Parker
Another good example of conflict of interest within the Obama Adminstration:
“Good news to know that the truth will always out–even when you’re Barack Obama.
“Obama Years Ago Helped Fund Carbon Program He Is Now Pushing Through Congress” is a FOXNews story by Ed Barnes. In short, “While on the board of a Chicago-based charity, Barack Obama helped fund a carbon trading exchange that will likely play a critical role in the cap-and-trade carbon reduction program he is now trying to push through Congress as president.”
The charity was the Joyce Foundation on whose board of directors Obama served and which gave nearly $1.1 million in two separate grants that were “instrumental in developing and launching the privately-owned Chicago Climate Exchange, which now calls itself “North America’s only cap and trade system for all six greenhouse gases, with global affiliates and projects worldwide.”
And that’s only the beginning of this tawdry tale…”
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/9629
April 5, 2009 at 7:25 am
helenlindsay
FAR OUT Leigh where do you find these??? where do I begin to pick this one apart?? It would take far too much space than I have here. There is so much contradictory propaganda in this movie my head is reeling. I’ll try to make at least one point:
America was founded on principals of freedom and liberty and LOOK what it has become today – the ‘Private’ Federal Bank surely is a product of the entrepreneurial spirit and innovation that these propagandists are fighting for? They want to create “greatness again’ AGAIN?? What by doing the same all over again???
Yes I agree the prospect of a world bank is terrirfying and I don’t think Iwant it to ever happen. They are probably correct ,we have all been manipulated by the owners of Banks who want to maintain world domination to continue their system of looting, Obama may well be a puppet – who knows?
There is a lot of very confusing messages in this video, they pepper their message with many supporting examples I agree with BUT I don’t think these people have the answers or the right political ideals. They even try to bring God into it at the end. WTF??
We cannot let the green movement be highjacked by the “New World Order” that is for sure, Carbon taxes are probably playing into the hands of the bankers and will eventually get them out of jail once we have switched to renewable energy and the oil runs out. However, I’m just as scared of the makers of this video – there is something that stinks about it – I think David could smell it, can you smell it too?
April 5, 2009 at 8:30 am
leighblackall
There’s lots that stinks about this video Helen.. most of all the typical american emotional manipulation that is such blatant propaganda you think the makers would be more self conscious about it. I share your concerns about it, but am willing to give it the benefit of the doubt considering the even scarier hype behind Obama.
Ever since Obama came into the lime light I have been equally concerned by what lies beneath that. I remember listening to his campaign speeches and thinking “where’s the substance?”, and “this guy is saying nothing”, and the celebration of the fact that he is black was just proof to me that racism is alive an well.
American politics is utterly predictable and always disappointing. If it wasn’t for the implications on the rest of us, I would have more fun watching the royal family’s dramas unfold.
All these low budget counter culture videos:
Loose Change
Zietgeist
Obama Deception
And the not so low budget, Adam Curtis films out of the BBC
I think they do a good job at challenging our assumptions, and opening just a little space for the development of a desperately needed alternative political movement. The emotionally charged tones don’t help with the prospects of that movement being positive unfortunately, but then again, it is hard to think of anything with a positivist tone that would actually affect a political and economic change. Life you, I suspect we (in the West) are headed for very violent times. History says its inevitable.
April 5, 2009 at 9:08 am
helenlindsay
and there was I hoping some sanity was beginning to reign in the transition town movement and all the hype on sustainability.etc
I have always aspired to self-sufficiency, do you think NZ being the island that it is may just manage to survive the chaos happening in other parts of the world? I guess the saying think globally act locally is sage advice, what else can we do?
The editorial in yesterday’s ODT summed it up well. “The G20 summit was almost wholly focussed on the promotion of economic growth… The unrestrained finance market led the world to this brink and surely demonstrated that capitalism cannot regulate itself. On what basis then, have the G20 leaders assumed the planet cn save itself?”
April 5, 2009 at 3:16 pm
George
with the exception of Sabrina you all sound intelligent. The idea behind the film is just to get you to think. If anyone listens to Alex Jones, he doesn’t ask you to join a movement, nor does he present himself as the leader of anything. The man has a bit of a dramatic flair (which I like, because you can’t be all doom and gloom), and if you disagree with the presentation don’t let it take away from the content. In any case whether they are dems or repubs, our “leaders” have led us down a path of globalization. Even if you don’t believe in the illuminati or the sinister motives of the Bilderberg conference, you can’t deny the level of globaliztion that has taken money out of the majority and given it to people that don’t actually DO anything. Big shout out to helenlindsay, I was living in Dunedin for awhile last year, and I’ve got to say I love Kiwis (and mincemeat pies)! Much love to everyone, and think for yourself because no-one else will.
April 5, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Steven Parker
I have found these post comments most interesting,
particularly in highlighting examples of cognitive
dissonance (‘which is an uncomfortable feeling
caused by holding two contradictory ideas
simultaneously.’ )
between the ideas expressed in mainstream media
and the ideas expresses in alternative media.
Helen’s comment – ‘I’m just as scared of the
makers of this video – there is something that
stinks about it – I think David could smell it,
can you smell it too?’
I think it’s good that the facts presented by the
movie are being questioned by Helen in that home
grown ‘alternative media’ can just as easily send
one off down a particular path of thinking as any
of the slickest prime time tv propaganda .
Personally I think the Obama Deception is a good
piece of investigate jourmalism in backing it’s
assertions with references, it’s entertainment
sure but this is a credit to the filmaker in
making the subject matter on economics, legislation,
governmental systems and banking acessible to a
wider audience.
One example of an alternative movie for me
stunk was the mega viral Zietgeist.
http://groups.google.com/group/teachAndLearnOnline
/browse_thread/thread/28d1d4b87a50b49c/1102b7c7b81
11b33?pli=1
Read the reactions to the content. Powerful stuff.
Watch the addendum, the idea is further evolved.
https://learnonline.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/zeitge
ist-addemdum/
The congressman Ron Paul articulates the G20 agenda better than me.
‘One proposal that they will probably suggest is
to globalise all regulations see they’re making
the assumption that the problem is that there is
too much freedom, there is to much capitalism and
therefore we have to regulate and since the so
called regulations that we have had up until now
haven’t worked they want to globalise it. Which
means more world government, more un more IMF more
WTO I think they;re moving in that direction…’
Now some time later from it’s release the idea’s
presented in Zeitgeist i.e. Global Governance,
Capitalism does’nt work, where a key plank of the
G20. Was Zeitgeist just another piece of media to
get one’ thinking to move towards this end??
April 6, 2009 at 8:42 pm
helenlindsay
George, Alex Jones does not ask you to join a movement overtly, he does however ask you to “Take action, say NO, break the shackles of government” This is political propaganda! I’m afraid you and Steve are being suckered in – either that or you both go along with the political ideals of these film makers (I suspect you do Steve) – Yes, they are asking us to THINK but they are also being VERY suggestive as to what we should be thinking. You are right George, we do need to think for ourselves, however what we think is very much influenced by what we see and hear. If the internet or TV is full of bull shit propaganda it’s no wonder we are all so confused and don’t know what to think.
So Steve how about some good honest dialogue between one brain an another – just like Socrates and Plato without all the friggin hyperlinks – I want to know what is in your head everything that you’ve ever read. (this is in reference to the Otago Sustainability google group in case you are wondering).
April 6, 2009 at 8:44 pm
helenlindsay
sorry, that should read NOT everything you’ve ever read. Enough ranting from me.
April 6, 2009 at 9:47 pm
Steven Parker
Helen
What’s in my head is ‘jeez that lamb roast in the oven smells nice’
I’ll keep on offering my two cents over time. With regards to what I am reading at the moment http://www.amazon.com/Brief-History-Future-Controversial-Twenty-First/dp/1559708794.
I’m also looking forward to showing and talking about this slideshow ‘Advice from nature’ with my friends and family. Good stuff.
April 7, 2009 at 8:54 am
helenlindsay
lol hope the roast was succulent. More links eh? I hope they have something useful to say – something from the heart would be good.
April 7, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Steven Parker
OK
Not to be-labour the point but this was a previous comment I made on how I feel about speaking form the heart in a networked conversation:
‘Emotive communication makes more sense to me in the context of a personal blog for example, one of the reasons I like video blogging is that my emotions and body langugae become more apparent in my communication for example
Stephen’s point in the context of networked communication resonates with me:
‘it will be necessary for citizens of the future to be able to respond to an increasing set of global crises from a ground of reason’
It occurs to me emotive language can potentailly distract from the latent potential of a network ‘to respond to an increasing set of global crises from a ground of reason.’ with the possible alienation of those people freshly exposed to a network who may feel no affiliation to the emotive language.
Personally I like the idea of respecting the language and tone of a networked conversation by that I mean being dispassionate to a point (objective), the language of an individual’s blog as being emotive and ‘True’ (subjective)
There is no black and white differentiation on communication style within a network that can be advocated…’
http://halfanhour.blogspot.com/2006/10/that-group-feeling.html
Also while looking for this comment I found this podcast on which relates to the viewers perception and meaning of online media:
http://odeo.com/episodes/1991923-TANZ-Stephen-Downes-Leigh-Questioning-the-quality-of-content-on-the-internet
Give me some critique of the facts in the Obama doco.
April 7, 2009 at 11:06 pm
Helen Lovell
I watched the entire movie and parts of it are a bit far fetched. I am a scientist and claiming that global warming is a hoax is a bit like saying the earth is flat. Go ahead believe what you want, but the facts state otherwise.
Another aspect of the movie I had problems with was gun control. I did a 20 research report on gun control in college. No gun control measure has been succesful in keeping guns out of the hands of motivated criminals. If Obama tried to take guns away the black market would suddenly start making a lot more money on guns.
However the bit about bankers taking over is a bit scary. I personally use a credit union and I would others to do the same.
April 8, 2009 at 1:47 pm
helenlindsay
Hi Steve,
Loved the nature slide share presentation, gives me some faith in humanity. My main criticism of the Obama Deception video is not so much with the facts, I think they were very clever keeping to the facts. However it is the way they are spliced up and edited together with their spin on everything. News footage of Obama was cut out and put into a different context – they choose where the cuts are made and they choose what to prefix and suffix it with. – Hence it doctored, digested and presented with a very strong bias.
If you look at some of what has come out of the G20 summit, Obama has actually made life a lot more difficult for the people the video claims he is the puppet of.
We can only hope he is genuine and has the interests of all humanity at heart. – One thing I do know however is that change of some sort is necessary for the future.
April 8, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Steven Parker
Yes the advice in the slide show is good for re-invigorating, taking stock and motivating after watching something negative like the Obama doco.
On re-watching the music is very overpowering in a corny Wes Craven movie way, esp the footage of the Bilderberg Event.
For me the footage of Obama bowing and scraping to the people at the G20 event only reinforces my perception of a puppet presidency.
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/07/barack-takes-a-bow/
April 11, 2009 at 11:41 am
Phil
Ulitmately the purpose of he movie is to expose the very real push for a New World Order and that Obama is a willing puppet of this ideology. As was Bush and Clinton. There is so much evidence of this it’s beyond dispute. Here are some recent headlines you can look into if so inclined.
CNN International: “Crisis may lead to new world order”
The New York Times: “A World in Need of a New Order”
Bloomberg: “G-20 Shapes New World Order With Lesser Role for U.S., Markets”
Financial Times: “The first bricks in a new world order”
BBC: “New world order emerges from chaos”
Yahoo News: “New world order hailed after rescue”
TIME: “Barack Obama’s New World Order”
April 11, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Ian R
It certainly makes sense that a group secretly creating a New World Order would publish headlines about it…
April 11, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Steven Parker
True it is only recently that the term New World Order is everywhere and widely promulgated in the mainstream media, so for many it will be new. For years it’s been the domain of conspiracy throries and largely ignored by the masses. There are lots of cultural references to the term over many decades such as (HG Wells New World Order), historical references (Tragedy and hope), political references (Nazism)… The large press coverage introduces the term into the sleeping masses consciousness and conditions acceptance as a logical outcome to meet the financial crisis climate crisis, pick your crisis. New World Order is an old old idea, the New World Order is ‘A big idea’ as Bush Senior told the public on Sept 11th 1991. Boasting success of their realising a new world order in the media is to be expected, it’s been a long time in the planning and execution, whether the sleeping masses casually dismiss as just another com si com sa event is not surprising.
April 11, 2009 at 4:31 pm
leighblackall
So its not a secret, its apparently out now, we know the basic idea of what it is trying to achieve, actually we’ve known it forever. Some bits we don’t like, other bits we do like… pity that this doco simplifies it all to.. “we don’t like any of it”.
Change to “a new world order” isn’t necessarily bad is it? It could be partly good, maybe even mostly good. Consider the possibility for change within that particular change movement. Those bad guys you all refer to will be dead soon, or as good as dead, and the new generation to usher in this new order will be the product of their environment right? They’ve had a wives, husbands and children to answer to, and circumstances to respond to, all different from the old leaders, pregnant with alternative possibilities. Our trouble is we are too impatient and dissatisfied with our own mortality to see this.
Sorry if you think this naive, but even in the short period you refer to – lets call it “neo con”, you can identify positive change within that even.
Its unfortunate that modernist fiction and history has made a great many of us fearful of governance and power. That same modernism produced the generation of leaders we are just getting rid of today, but now there is a generation of post modern leaders coming in, and I think its reasonable to expect that they are a product of their post modern society. Feminised universities, more open source science and engineering, triple bottom line economics, international and more racially just, more environmentally aware… all of it with its own issues of good and bad, and fear enabled evil taking root at every opportunity – but maybe, just maybe the good will outweigh the bad in the change implemented by the new generation. I think we all play a critical part in influencing that positivism, especially in influencing the generation next.
Certainly their will always be opportunistic evil, as there always has been, but I suspect that fear – our fear – gives that evil more opportunity. That’s why I enjoy Michael Moore’s documentaries more than I do this Obama Deception, a film that represents a darkly cynical, more right wing element to neo socialism.
For example – at the same time Moore critiques, he also provides hope and humanity. The front up style of Moore exposes the human frailty of those in power along side those “like us”, and so reminds us that we are human and that we all influence and help one another. We need improvements on Moore..
The Obama Deception doesn’t carry that humanist sub text. It respects grand plans and conspiracies as though they were anything but a bunch of old codgers bored with love and live. It raises fear and hate in them and us, with the only moral being an impotent call to protest (or more). It is a violent film in many respects, encouraging people like Sparker and too many others to insult the intellect of people everywhere by referring to them as masses and inferring ignorance and stupidity, while separating himself from that as though he was enlightened or knew better.
Can you see that sub text through this genre of discourse? Can you sense the violent intent, and ultimately frustrating and dis empowering consequences? The whole thing could do with a big dose of humility and generosity, and a reflection on our own parts we’ve played and will play.
April 11, 2009 at 5:46 pm
Steven Parker
OK, I don’t think I am insulting the intellect of people, it’s a fact that most people (The masses) are not interested in this subject matter, as many people I have spoken to will admit, ‘Lifes to short’. Nothing wrong with that, people have lives to lead and all the hurdles to overcome in day to day life.
I don’t see myself as ‘enlightened’ and separate from people (The masses) and try to talk about this subject matter with as many people as I can.
I don’t see myself as cynical in that I am aware of the best in people and it would be foolish to isolate oneself in order to get by.
I do know that the NWO is based on elitism and eugenics, ironically my motives for talking about this stuff are good not cynically against people.
Yes the Obama doco does leave a very bad aftertaste because of the subject matter, I also like the Michael Moore and have been less confronted by the material.
“Countless people will hate the New World Order and will die protesting against it.” — H G Wells The New World Order (1940).
An interesting quote from HG Wells sure we’ll soon have to do the mental gymnastics to see global government and all that intales to move towards global stability and world peace, as Capone said, ‘Give them an order they can’t refuse’, might be as HG Wells said some collateral damge in the process though. Perhaps culturally there will be a nod to Kubrick with some director filming (Maybe Jones or Moore) ‘ How I came to love the NWO’. What aspects do you think will be postitive?
April 11, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Steven Parker
Capone said, ‘Give them an order they can’t refuse’
I meant ‘Give them an offer they can’t refuse’
Freudian slip closer to the truth I think.
April 11, 2009 at 7:28 pm
SugarBear
This clip might help people figure out where this filmmaker is coming from.
I admit this subject matter is somewhat dark and depressing, but not as depressing as looking it up yourself and finding all the stuff he left on the cutting room floor.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7360123317711949024&hl=en
or
April 11, 2009 at 7:44 pm
SugarBear
I think it would help to say one last thing –
we have been conditioned to think there isnt anything wrong with keeping poor people from having children, but what we must remember is that, the people who believe in this religion consider EVERYONE who is not of their class to be excess cattle,
you cannot prove yourself worthy of being able to have children and be independent and sovereign of mind.
If your parents, grandparents, and great grandparents were not part of this then you are considered a “fodder unit” to quote Bush Senior.
The world is run like a business
“get people to love their servitude”
Aldous Huxley author of Brave New World Written in 1931
April 11, 2009 at 9:24 pm
booker
I think this film is a example on how American is so devided. This man your speaking about is the president of the United States and you post comments disrespecting his name. No wonder other countries think we are weak…….. this doc. has no true meaning to it, because if it did the obama party would respond to it live
April 12, 2009 at 9:50 am
EmbarrasedByYou
Frankly, it embarrasses me to see the political machine at work attempting to bring down a respected leader before he even has a chance to make any positive changes. Fearmongering at it’s worse with it’s only agenda to achieve exactly what it purports to be exposing, hidden agendas and self serving greed and hate.
Why don’t you take your money and put it to good use instead of trying to further tear down this country and everything it stands for. It’s unfortunate that we have a country where you are allowed to make and promote propaganda like this and get away with it.
If I was you I’d be embarrassed to have made or have any part in the making, promoting or distribution of this movie.
April 13, 2009 at 4:38 am
hello there
what are we going to do about it!?
April 15, 2009 at 2:14 am
sparkered
Good article and advice:
“I am calling for an ‘Intellectual Revolution’. I ask American citizens to free their minds from the tyranny of ‘Dumb Think.’ This is a revolution about thinking – not manning the barricades. It’s about brain power – not brute force.”
For society to survive and grow, it must wake up and grow up. Americans must acknowledge what their opinions are based on, who they listen to … and why.’
‘Make your voice heard, your discontent felt and your solutions known. Band with others who share similar objectives and common goals.’
http://yonkerstribune.typepad.com/yonkers_tribune/2009/04/celente-calls-for-revolution-as-the-only-solution.html
Gerald Celente is a market trends researcher and is well worth checking out on youtube.
April 15, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Helen
Embarrassedbyyou – well said! I hope you are a politically active American. Hello There – Where are you from? you could start by boycotting the corporations, (MacDonalds, Hollywood, Shell, BP, Caltex etc, multinational construction companies… I don’t know who they all are,) avoid overconsuming crap, avoid watching crap on TV, join the Green Party (or the equivalent in your country), grow your own food, become a vegetarian, make your own clothes or wear recycled, recycle, spend time with your children, form a face to face discussion group – …come on help me out here someone..
April 16, 2009 at 12:46 am
Steven Parker
I watched a documentary on the collapse of Argentina last night called http://www.thetake.org/ It’s really worth watching for a heads up on what an economic collapse looks like. It’s a shoe in that we’ll experience something similar in Western economies. Directed by Naomi Klein it shows how ordinary people band and work together to work after an economic collapse and make it work. Tragically there is also a sad truth in the doco that shows it’s not difficult (It’s so easy) for the same elite, to soon return to power to be re-elected by the masses/ mob who forget or fail to understand what’s been done to them, all you have to give is like Obama empty rhetoric, some sandwiches and a coke.
Importantly it shows what intelligent industrious ordinary people with drive and strength can achieve against the odds, much to the chagrin of the ruling elites who instigated the collapse in the first place. The doco shows how they inspired other Argentinian people with an alternative way of producing products and developing local economy. Well worth a watch to take note.
Full version: http://tinyurl.com/dykylt
April 16, 2009 at 1:04 am
Steven Parker
‘An Argentine opinion on the Global Financial Crisis, describing the whole Global Financial System as one vast Ponzi Scheme. Like a pyramid, it has four sides and is a predictable model. The four sides are: (1) Artificially control the supply of public State-issued Currency, (2) Artificially impose Banking Money as the primary source of funding in the economy, (3) Promote doing everything by Debt and (4) Erect complex channels that allow privatizing profits when the Model is in expansion mode and socialize losses when the model goes into contraction mode. ‘
April 19, 2009 at 3:42 pm
sparkered
Recommend this video for an overview of the background of the New World Order past and present.
April 19, 2009 at 5:56 pm
helenlindsay
This link takes the problem a bit further.
watch the others in between as well.
June 12, 2009 at 7:43 am
jiddo
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July 23, 2009 at 9:56 am
DEE
YOU MEAN THERES A DEEPER AGENDA.NOW IM REALLY FUCKIN LOOSING IT
August 27, 2009 at 8:50 pm
nixonn
i really want to know what is with in it. Can I know the details?
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